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Jesse Pinkman ([personal profile] hostage) wrote2012-12-21 09:21 pm

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dirtyredneck: (Neutral Stare (04))

[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
he isn't my guy. he's a guy. and he's wanting to try to make a portal of his own. don't know if it's the same way you made yours. haven't asked him yet. how about you give me the specs on the one you built and the results and i can check with him if any of what he's looking to do is similar.

if you're that convinced it's a waste of time to talk to him further, then that shouldn't be a problem, should it? you don't have to deal with him, i can see if it's worth making him the offer. everyone wins.
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
How about I NOT?

a. I don't know this guy and right now, he isn't vetted to my satisfaction enough to convince me to hand over information to him. MY guy's porter might not have worked HERE, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't work in principle, and I would rather not hand a time-machine/dimension-hopper's plans to a person I don't know or trust. Who is to say that sometime in the future we don't figure out a way to go home, memories intact? Who is to say that this wouldn't come back to bite us in the asses?

b. How much DO you know about this guy who is not YOUR guy and whose Porter plan you sound like you know nothing about except that he wants to do it?

c. How much will you understand about Porter plans if he even SHOWS you his or I show you what I have? Will you be able to tell if they're similar?


I'd rather not fund some-random-guy-off-the-street's kickstarter without sufficient information. He could be just taking you for a ride.
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[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
a. then why should i hand anything of his over to you? he don't know you or me from adam neither. no reason for him to trust me if i ask for his shit so you can 'vet' it.

b. i know he wants to build a plan and he offered a list of what he'd need to do it over the net via an anonymous voice message. put up in the last day. you can find it yourself.

c. yes.

he wasn't asking for funding. he was asking for help finding parts and building what he had to from scratch. i think it's worth a shot to try it. even a failure is good for learning where not to look the next time we go hunting for an answer.
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
a. Unless he has transparency, why even assist him? For all you know, we could be throwing resources at someone building something more sinister.

b. That isn't a lot to know about a guy or his plan. That is a laundry list of expensive tech.

c. Very reassuring.


Funding/parts...same thing. Things cost money and things can be resold. I'm not saying the Russians are good/bad/otherwise, but there are OTHER people building porters out there--LACKEY, I'm sure the US is building their own as well--and I don't trust giving someone the means to make something as powerful as a Porter if I don't know the guy and can vouch for his intentions.

The person in that post says they've been here literally 2 hours as of their post. I've been through the Porter more than once. The guards do NOT let you look at the Porter. If he is 2 hours new, he knows nothing more about the Porter into this world than any of us. If he is even really new. Or even an imPort. They are anonymous. They are an unknown. I appreciate their desire to get off the ground running, but I for one do not trust them.
Edited 2017-03-08 06:01 (UTC)
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[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
never said I trusted him. just think it's worth a look.
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[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
you make an awful lot of assumptions. should stop that.
driftsintobuffetline: (well yeah you could do that)

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Can't stop, won't stop.

But you're making a lot of assumptions about this guy and his abilities. You fought hard for something you didn't trust. It's reckless to assist someone whose motives you don't know. You have to be cautious what you give them, what secrets you allow.

Otherwise you might give over some plutonium to a guy, expecting him to build you a bomb...and instead you end up with an empty casing made of used pinball machine parts.

Or maybe he does build a bomb--and then uses it on you.
dirtyredneck: (Angry (14))

[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
still making assumptions. this isn't fighting hard.
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
now it's not, but had you in a tizzy earlier
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[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
keep telling yourself that.
driftsintobuffetline: (ok...)

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
cute
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
the issue remains: we DO need to know more about this guy before we help him.

We are not a public organization. You do not want to risk revealing Constellations for a newbie's pet porter project.
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[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
i never said nothing about telling him about the group. we can offer support without opening up the welcome wagon and putting out a sign declaring ourselves to the world. having someone on the lower run approach him, talk to him, offer to help, assist maybe, can all be done without going public in any manner or saying they're a part of something bigger. and they can report back what they're seeing and hearing while they're at it.

not you though. someone who knows how not to make assumptions and won't run their proverbial mouth over stupid shit should do it.
driftsintobuffetline: (well yeah you could do that)

[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2017-03-08 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
first off, I think you'll have to select the person carefully because someone can't just show up with fancy tech parts and no explanation of where they got them from or how they knew what they were unless there's a good reason for them to have them.

Secondly, I definitely have no interest in this project.
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[personal profile] dirtyredneck 2017-03-08 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
[Okay, know it all here is sounding way too familiar at this point. The continued assumptions and excessive need to get the last word had frustrated him to know end before. And with the limited options they had for the scientifically inclined who had built their own attempts at portal among the current imPorts, it wasn't that hard to make the leap of logic. Especially since he'd referenced himself as part of a two-man team and (again) made the assumption that was all the dimensional expert scientists the constellation had access to.

Arrogant, full of himself, too smart for his own good, and always jumping to conclusions off of very limited and generally vague statements? That had Newton written all over it.]


you really need to learn how to shut up.

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