[She nearly lashes out. It might be visible in the way her shoulders tense, how her hands clench into fists at her sides, but to get a hold on her anger before she actually does anything.
Wasn't she thinking about hurting Saul herself, when she first heard this revelation? Didn't she already hurt him, during the fight in the hallway? But reminding herself of that only barely takes the edge off how worried she is for him, how protective she feels.
She doesn't know what to do, what to think, how to cope with this it all and she can't find any response to Jesse beyond her silent, barely contained anger.]
[Yes, exactly what he was looking for. That's a look that pleases him more than all the pity in the world. He stares at her for a good, long moment in return, his lips twitching into a smirk, and then he moves with languid steps out of the doorway to let her pass... if she wants to.]
All I've done since day one is try to help you, like I was asked to and maybe I haven't done a great job of that, maybe you just hate me for getting involved, but I don't think I deserve this. I respected your decision when you asked me to leave Walter for you, I kept my distance, and I kept my silence and I tried to help how I could. And all I've got in return is being scared and lied to and manipulated.
[There's anger there, but hurt, too, and something like confusion. She seems like someone who's barely out of their teenage years, because she is, for all that she tries to keep Batgirl strong, she's still young.]
Is it me, or is this what everyone gets when they deal with you people?
Nah, nah, nah. Don't make it out like you were worried about me, like you did me some big favor. I never asked for you or anybody else to get all up in my business. I never wanted help. And you didn't keep your silence, either, 'cause you were talking with Sonya - and who knows who else, right? I got no reason to believe a word of your bullshit.
Saul asked me! And I was. [Worried about him, she means, and she doesn't understand how he doesn't realize that, because even though so much of this was about helping Saul, she really was trying to help Jesse, too.]
Do you even realize the effect you have on people?
Effect? Like the everybody I know gets hurt or killed effect? Yeah, I kinda noticed. Hence my advice - that nobody ever wants to take seriously - to just stay the fuck away from me.
That's not the part I meant! [She pauses, then, taken aback by the realization that she just said that out loud. It's one to think it, it's another to shout it in Jesse's face mid-argument, and she can't help feeling bad about that.] Sorry.
[She's still angry, but it's dulled for a moment.]
[He doesn't even know what she's apologizing for this time. He's the one who just said it, isn't he?]
So the other part, the part where everybody has this whole idea about me that they made up and then they get all disappointed when I don't live up to it, and I'm a junkie, and I'm crazy, and I'm a criminal, and I'm not a perfect - a perfect whatever they thought I was supposed to be for them. Is that what you're talking about?
She just drags her hands over her face, sighing deeply before she manages to look at him again.]
The part where people think you're worth saving, Jesse. [Somehow, her tone is gentle, almost sad.] The part where people talk to you and they love you and want to help you, and I don't think it's about them having ideas about you or thinking you're perfect, they just see something good in you.
[Anoter sigh, but this one is softer, and she looks over to meet Jesse's gaze.]
I dunno how true that is, but god if I don't understand it.
[And she hates him for that, because like they said, knowing him gets people killed.]
[The way he sounds is enough to give her pause, because for all her anger, she's not really interested in hurting him. Very, very carefully - and she'll stop if he pulls away - she takes a step closer and reaches out to touch her fingertips to his arm, not holding on, just... something.]
Jesse. [Her voice is as gentle as the touch, like she's worried he might break.] I've met so many people who are irredeemible, who're broken beyond repair, and you're nothing like them.
[Zsasz, Sionis, the Joker. This Walter White of theirs. She knows what it looks like when people are evil, without any good in them, and that's not Jesse.]
It doesn't matter what you've done, you're not past saving, you just have to want it.
[With the way he settles, she moves her hand so it's properly laying against his arm, not just a light touch, though she still isn't holding onto him.]
No, but there's a difference between paying for your sins and destroying yourself for them.
[If they were in a normal world, this is the part where she'd arrest him, where she'd help him get a good lawyer so that he's fairly represented and leave it to play out in the hands in the law.
But they're not somewhere normal, they're stuck here, and Jesse's killing himself over this.]
And there's a difference between letting someone get away with it, and helping them atone.
[He reminds her of Clancy, she realizes, and it makes her heart ache.]
[It's why they're talking about this in the first place.
She's quiet for a moment, weighing up whether she wants to tell him this, before deciding that maybe, just maybe, it'll help him understand.]
I've got blood on my hands, too, innocent people, and I have to live with that, but I also had to learn to stop hating myself for it and to start trying to make things better. Because we can give up, and we can tell ourself that we're beyond saving, or we can try to make up for our mistakes in whatever way we can.
[She's quiet, but keeps her gaze on him, hoping he's taking this in.]
Maybe I should be in prison, maybe I shouldn't be allowed to be Batgirl, but I'd rather keep fighting, and I'm so grateful for the people who've helped me get there. Giving up, hating myself, that doesn't help anyone. Forgiving myself, asking my friends to forgive me, and trying to save as many people as I can? That's the difference between letting someone get away with it and letting them make up for their mistakes.
[People have given her that chance, and she wants Jesse to give it to himself.]
[Jesse will argue for his own damnation. He'll even argue for Saul's and Mr. White's. But he can never bring himself to condemn others here, even when they come out with confessions like this. It's hypocritical of him, as Ellie's pointed out, but he wants to believe in redemption for others. He doesn't know why. He just can't fathom that they're as evil as he and Saul and Mr. White. And he wants to believe in second chances for them.
He sniffs and blinks back the tears in his eyes.]
I don't need anybody to forgive me. That's not what I'm after.
[As careful as she touched him the first time, she moves closer now, and if he lets her, she'll wrap her arms around his shoulders, pulling him into a gentle hug.
This is exactly what she meant. All she wants to do is help him, even while she hates him.]
[People keep doing this and he's not sure why but he allows it. It's all so stupid. He would understand if it was someone who's still fooled by him, but when it comes to Sonya and Steph especially... They hate him. He knows it. And it's not unwarranted. So why do they pretend otherwise? Neither of them seem like love can save the world types. What's the tactic here?
For all his doubt, Jesse responds automatically, leaning into the hug though he doesn't quite return it, instead lightly placing a hand on Steph's arm. He is, after all, sorry for being cruel to her and for being frightening even when he isn't trying to be. He knows it isn't easy to deal with him.
Tears well up in his eyes again but he's going to do his best to avoid breaking down like he did with Sonya.]
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[His shoulders ease subtly in relief. Really, what was he planning to do if she laid a heroic speech on him?]
Saul couldn't control what happened. And I made sure he paid for it.
He's real sorry now.
[There's such a darkness to that final statement.]
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What did you do?
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Wasn't she thinking about hurting Saul herself, when she first heard this revelation? Didn't she already hurt him, during the fight in the hallway? But reminding herself of that only barely takes the edge off how worried she is for him, how protective she feels.
She doesn't know what to do, what to think, how to cope with this it all and she can't find any response to Jesse beyond her silent, barely contained anger.]
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What's wrong with you people?!
[All of them. They're all manipulative assholes and she's so sick of being played.]
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[But she's not done.]
All I've done since day one is try to help you, like I was asked to and maybe I haven't done a great job of that, maybe you just hate me for getting involved, but I don't think I deserve this. I respected your decision when you asked me to leave Walter for you, I kept my distance, and I kept my silence and I tried to help how I could. And all I've got in return is being scared and lied to and manipulated.
[There's anger there, but hurt, too, and something like confusion. She seems like someone who's barely out of their teenage years, because she is, for all that she tries to keep Batgirl strong, she's still young.]
Is it me, or is this what everyone gets when they deal with you people?
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Do you even realize the effect you have on people?
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[She's still angry, but it's dulled for a moment.]
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So the other part, the part where everybody has this whole idea about me that they made up and then they get all disappointed when I don't live up to it, and I'm a junkie, and I'm crazy, and I'm a criminal, and I'm not a perfect - a perfect whatever they thought I was supposed to be for them. Is that what you're talking about?
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She just drags her hands over her face, sighing deeply before she manages to look at him again.]
The part where people think you're worth saving, Jesse. [Somehow, her tone is gentle, almost sad.] The part where people talk to you and they love you and want to help you, and I don't think it's about them having ideas about you or thinking you're perfect, they just see something good in you.
[Anoter sigh, but this one is softer, and she looks over to meet Jesse's gaze.]
I dunno how true that is, but god if I don't understand it.
[And she hates him for that, because like they said, knowing him gets people killed.]
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There is nothing good in me.
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[And he chokes on that last word, a half-sobbed plea to stop pushing it. This is exactly what he was talking about.]
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Jesse. [Her voice is as gentle as the touch, like she's worried he might break.] I've met so many people who are irredeemible, who're broken beyond repair, and you're nothing like them.
[Zsasz, Sionis, the Joker. This Walter White of theirs. She knows what it looks like when people are evil, without any good in them, and that's not Jesse.]
It doesn't matter what you've done, you're not past saving, you just have to want it.
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Do you wanna live in a world where we get away with it?
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No, but there's a difference between paying for your sins and destroying yourself for them.
[If they were in a normal world, this is the part where she'd arrest him, where she'd help him get a good lawyer so that he's fairly represented and leave it to play out in the hands in the law.
But they're not somewhere normal, they're stuck here, and Jesse's killing himself over this.]
And there's a difference between letting someone get away with it, and helping them atone.
[He reminds her of Clancy, she realizes, and it makes her heart ache.]
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I don't see the difference.
[In either case.]
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[It's why they're talking about this in the first place.
She's quiet for a moment, weighing up whether she wants to tell him this, before deciding that maybe, just maybe, it'll help him understand.]
I've got blood on my hands, too, innocent people, and I have to live with that, but I also had to learn to stop hating myself for it and to start trying to make things better. Because we can give up, and we can tell ourself that we're beyond saving, or we can try to make up for our mistakes in whatever way we can.
[She's quiet, but keeps her gaze on him, hoping he's taking this in.]
Maybe I should be in prison, maybe I shouldn't be allowed to be Batgirl, but I'd rather keep fighting, and I'm so grateful for the people who've helped me get there. Giving up, hating myself, that doesn't help anyone. Forgiving myself, asking my friends to forgive me, and trying to save as many people as I can? That's the difference between letting someone get away with it and letting them make up for their mistakes.
[People have given her that chance, and she wants Jesse to give it to himself.]
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He sniffs and blinks back the tears in his eyes.]
I don't need anybody to forgive me. That's not what I'm after.
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[As careful as she touched him the first time, she moves closer now, and if he lets her, she'll wrap her arms around his shoulders, pulling him into a gentle hug.
This is exactly what she meant. All she wants to do is help him, even while she hates him.]
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For all his doubt, Jesse responds automatically, leaning into the hug though he doesn't quite return it, instead lightly placing a hand on Steph's arm. He is, after all, sorry for being cruel to her and for being frightening even when he isn't trying to be. He knows it isn't easy to deal with him.
Tears well up in his eyes again but he's going to do his best to avoid breaking down like he did with Sonya.]
...I can't do that.
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